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What does it take to succeed as a candidate attorney?

I interviewed a fair number of candidate attorneys during the years and I see others who make it in the legal profession and those that don’t.  I would say probably 50% of those who have a law degree never end up actually making it as attorneys – they go into other areas or become corporate legal advisors, which is not always as fancy as the name implies.  In many cases it involves working in a mobile telecommunications company sorting out clients’ arguments about their phone bills and issues with the contract – not something that I obtained a law degree for, but obviously each to their own and what they prefer to do.  

It would be wonderful if one could say, in terms of becoming a candidate attorney, that every aspect of the Basic Conditions of the Employment Act must apply to you, that people must treat you with incredible respect because you have a University degree and the staff in the office should bask and pay attention to every word that you utter, but that is not reality.  If I have to give somebody advice, I feel that I succeeded with my articles because I took the view that I was back in Std 6.  I was back at the bottom of the pile.  I did not adopt an attitude that I had two University degrees, which I had (I have three now, including an LLM in Tax law) or that I was entitled to be treated with tremendous respect everywhere I went.  I understood that in terms of the actual practice of law I knew next to nothing and that I would have to learn about office politics.  Office politics are probably the biggest reason that many of those that I was at University with never made it as attorneys.  They had disputes with secretaries at firms, or put up the backs of some junior staff by treating them as junior staff and then subsequently finding that they would not help them with anything.  It is not as if, in the average firm, your principal or the attorneys in the firm take a few hours off to explain each and every issue or document to you.  They often simply ask you to do something and expect you to go off and do it and if you have no idea how to do it sometimes a secretary can indeed be your best friend.  Don’t pick fights with secretaries, don’t have arguments with support staff however junior you may consider them to be in comparison to you.  Also, don’t be naïve to think that you have a superior knowledge to them in any way – in many cases, and I have certainly come across a number over the years, they are better suited to being attorneys than some people who do have law degrees.  

They may simply not have them because, for example, their parents did not have enough money to send them to law school and they might very well be studying for a law degree part-time by correspondence, not having had the luxury of taking 4 years off to go and be lectured at University, etc.  

During my articles I did a lot of photostatting, a lot of delivery of documents and I don’t begrudge that at all.  I don’t understand why, in some firms, filing ladies are left to put together court documents.  If I put together a court document, none of the pages would have been put back to front, upside down or out of order and while photostatting a bundle of documents and numbering it consequentially might seem like a simple task, but it is precisely the kind of task that needs to be done by a candidate attorney.

During my articles I was asked to have a look at my boss’s Jacuzzi cover at his house, which was a bit of a strange job to give to me, not because I was a candidate attorney, but because I was not particularly good with my hands.  I also, on one occasion, had to deliver a letter to a vet to thank them for being so kind to my boss’s wife when their cat died.  I don’t think that is what articles is about, but I did not walk away with anything other than an overall respect for the attorney I did my articles with, because he was a good attorney.  Quite frankly, if during the hours he was paying me to work for him he gave me a job to do, I was happy to do it as long as it was not unethical or criminal.  I am sure some people will take exception to what I am saying now, and that does not mean that people who work at my firm are required to do those types of things – far from it – they never had been, but I think that today there are far too many would be attorneys who take this training period far too casually.  They seem to chop and changes jobs, have to explain to who they are  are and how they should be treated and are always ready to march out the offices exactly at 5pm, if not 1 minute before.  I see very few hard workers who want to put in the extra hours – I remember one particular night finishing at 10pm at the offices of my principal.  I was not paid overtime, I did not expect overtime and when I bumped into my former principal as I have from time to time, particularly in Hyde Park Corner, I am always happy to see him because I don’t have any unhappy memories of the time I spent in his offices.

You may well choose to disagree with some of the things I have written, but it is practical advice based on years watching many of my friends at other law firms not ultimately becoming attorneys because they did not understand that they were back at the bottom again, and it was time to roll up their sleeves, do some hard work and drop the attitude! 

Posted by Michael de Broglio on Monday 08-May-17 Share on Facebook   Tweet It

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Helen  said:
on Thursday 01-Jun-17 09:59 AM
For all years working at Attorneys I would say we have the strongest team of candidates attorneys today. All are hard workers and looking forward to stay in the legal industry. Clearly can see that current candidates are enjoying the field they in. More staff members like them makes the firm successful!

Brenda van den Bergh  said:
on Friday 26-May-17 05:49 PM
I have been working for the firm for almost 10 years, and what i have learnt in these 10 years is that you need to be dedicated to your job. It is a fast paced industry and the decision to become an attorney should not be taken lightly. You basically have to have a very thick skin and hair on your teeth. As i said previously it takes dedication and a huge amount of time and concentration to achieve results in this industry.

Prishani  said:
on Friday 26-May-17 09:24 AM
I remember when I left university one of my lecturers told me that I may feel on top of the world now because I have just obtained my degree, but the key is experience. When I started my articles it felt as though I knew nothing! This for me was a very humbling experience and I realised that although I have my degree it doesn’t mean I know everything and I still don’t and I know I have a lot more to learn. I have a huge amount of respect for secretaries as they know so much more about practice and litigation than most university graduates. I think it is so important to treat each and every individual with respect regardless of their position in the firm because I have learnt that they can teach you something new and help you when you need it the most!! I think being a candidate attorney means that you have to work hard and earn the respect of your colleagues.

tersia  said:
on Wednesday 24-May-17 09:13 AM
A saying come to mind when reading this, "don't burn your bridges". You never know when someone who you treated badly will have to come in handy. So many people think they can treat others with disrespect because they don't have the same degree as they do or even a degree at all. We are all equal. I have heard a lot, as some of my friends also studied to become a lawyer, that they would rather have chosen another field if they knew what they knew now. It doesn't look that bad, but what do I know. Luckily there are a lot of lawyers around if some of them decide to back out and go look for a totally different job.

Jessica M  said:
on Friday 19-May-17 09:35 AM
People often ask me why I don't just become an attorney because of working for them for many years. I refuse. I will not do it. I see how it is to be a candidate attorney and I don't do well with being bossed around when I know I am going to be on the same level one day. I do take my hat of to attorneys that push through it though.

Brenda Du Toit   said:
on Tuesday 16-May-17 09:29 AM
I think to be a candidate attorney is really difficult.It takes lots of long hours hard work and dedication.But at the end it will be all worthwhile.

Joyce  said:
on Friday 12-May-17 05:51 PM
It think pride before success sometimes does not help as it is not relevant at the time. I think if still need more information, one needs to be calm and have respect so to get information needed or to get support needed. Looking for lots of information and not showing respect to the sources of information I think it is not a good idea. Yes, sometimes if showing respect to some other people they do not appreciate, but keep respecting other people works.

Dune  said:
on Friday 12-May-17 04:47 PM
Hard work, discipline, no social life, you have to be focused, set your mind on a goal and do whatever it takes to achieve that goal and be the best you can be. Listen, be humble and never miss an opportunity to learn something new!

Jadine E  said:
on Friday 12-May-17 08:43 AM
We all have to start at the bottom to become successful but still be humbled.

Angelique Jurgens  said:
on Tuesday 09-May-17 02:33 PM
I can definitely relate and appreciate this blog post. It is so important to stay humble and not let a degree make you arrogant or "better than others". If you think you deserve respect because you have a degree think again because the legal industry will humble you. On the days when everything is a mess and you need help from those same people you talked down on and showed no respect will not help you. Whereas had you shown respect and appreciation for secretaries and support staff they may just go beyond, stay late etc until the issue is resolved. I understand that people study for years make sacrifices to get where they are but respect is a 2-way street and you need to give it so that others can help you learn more and assist you in efficient manners. With the right attitude people will be more eager and willing to assist and learn. Success doesn't come over night it takes long hours, dedication and relationships with people. We are all human and cannot possibly know how to do everything or never need help - build your bridges and don't burn them. You never know where you may end up and if landing your dream job interview is conducted by that same "junior staff member" you gave no respect or time of day to. With that said, It is a 2 way street, you cannot expect respect and to be taken seriously if you are a clock watcher, never go beyond or bother to learn from the resources and wealth of knowledge around you. Ask more questions, stay later, double triple check your work - you did not study so hard to sit back and relax. Make it count :)

Lourien  said:
on Tuesday 09-May-17 11:15 AM
Making it as a candidate attorney, takes lots of long hours hard work and dedication. The harder you work the better you will perform the more knowledgeable you will be. a Candidate attorney needs to work along with all other staff members, looking up at attorneys as they have been where they are now but also working with all staff members as being equal. Its never about being better but working together as a team and being able to get great results at the end of the day.

Henrietta  said:
on Tuesday 09-May-17 11:11 AM
Hard work pays off in the end. I believe if you give it your all you'll one day be satisfied, think of all the knowledge that you have gained by being down at the bottom again and working yourself up. I was brought up that respect is earned not a given and I still live with that. I don't believe that just because you have a degree people must automatically respect you, you have to work and earn that respect. I also firmly believe that if you work along with your secretary you'd get far and will have a pleasant working environment that trying to better them.

Thabitha  said:
on Tuesday 09-May-17 10:11 AM
I always say there is a huge deference between the varsity and co-operative world, reality is to find a job, meet different people with different attitude but as a person you don't need to lose respect stay positive because we learn every day and remember it is not an easy thing to start from the bottom but we all need to start somewhere to get somewhere. Respect is the key

Jadine Richards  said:
on Tuesday 09-May-17 10:06 AM
I see being a candidate attorney as merely an extension of my studies. When I have completed my articles then I think I would be able to say that I have completed my studies, well this part of my studies. There is no room in the life of a candidate attorney for arrogance or self-entitlement, to me its mostly about survival and not messing up until you get to a point when you actually know what it is that you are you doing.

Lucretia  said:
on Tuesday 09-May-17 09:57 AM
Wow, what an article. This is going to sound awful, but, I have come across some young attorneys who, because they have studied and have a degree think they deserve respect whilst looking at secretary down their noses. It is so true, respect is something that is earned and not a right because you have a degree. I look at some of our Snr Advocates who will talk to us secretaries with the utmost respect and assist where need be and then you get attorneys, not even an advocate, who will look at you like you are a nothing......Michael, i like your attitude and i wish there were more attorneys out there who think like you. We are all needed to make the matter work in the best interest of the client.

Zanell  said:
on Tuesday 09-May-17 09:41 AM
I have always treated everybody in the office with respect no matter who they are, people are always willing to help if you are always willing to learn. It is true that when you start your articles you honestly don't know anything about the practical side of it, so if you are going to have an attitude and think you are better than others who know more than you do, you will never get anywhere.

Michelle  said:
on Tuesday 09-May-17 08:41 AM
Everyone has to start somewhere. And unfortunately in life not everyone can start at the top. If you want to make it on your own in life you need to start from the bottom. If you worked for something you appreciate it more. I have also heard from a lot of people who have law degrees behind their name and then decide to go in a completely different direction. But I also think it’s better to realise it’s not something you want to do, than doing it and you’re not happy for the rest of your life.

Daniella  said:
on Monday 08-May-17 05:51 PM
You're Studies are extremely important but so is experience, they go hand in hand. but on the note of people studying law and not actually practicing it is 100% true one of my friends are actually studying at Rhodes and isn't even planning on practicing it. In all honesty I personally feel like it is a complete waste of money and time.

Melissa  said:
on Monday 08-May-17 05:13 PM
I think to be a candidate attorney is really difficult, they've got so many goals to achieve and so many stuff to learn in a very stressful manner. Candidate attorneys that think they are better than others, are usually the ones that fails first. Be positive and do the best you can.

Jolene   said:
on Monday 08-May-17 03:38 PM
I think we are very privilege at De Broglio, a lot of other firms pay their clerks next to nothing and treats them really bad. I agree with you it feels like we are in St6 again. You learn so much and the most important thing that you must understand from the beginning is that life is not fair. Some colleagues will like you other not so much. Just be humble and work hard, do what you need to do and know your place.

Angelique P  said:
on Monday 08-May-17 02:40 PM
I think it’s really a difficult thing to be a candidate attorney. You still have to learn so much and some attorneys don’t treat you very well.
I know the people that work hard will definitely come out on top. Just have a positive attitude and you will get far.

Liz  said:
on Monday 08-May-17 01:07 PM
I agree 100%, it is rather difficult to secure articles these days because most employers complain of candidates that do not work hard and do not know their place. When you walk out of university, no matter how many degrees you have, you have no idea how things actually work in practice and that is why your time as a candidate attorney is invaluable, and you should be soaking up everything like a sponge. I have probably learnt more in my short time as a candidate than I have learnt in all the years at university.

Melissa van Tellingen  said:
on Monday 08-May-17 12:51 PM
Getting articles as a candidate in many ways is like being back in standard 6. We are at the bottom again. It all depends on your attitute and if you are willing to learn new things by knowing your place and listening. Having worked hard for a law degree is a privilege and its up to you to make the best of it by working hard and using the time you have during your articles to learn as much as possible.

brumilde  said:
on Monday 08-May-17 12:47 PM
I must say i am very fond of the candidates we have now, they are such an awesome group, we see them come and go and some stay, but also to see them at the start of their career and then finishing when they finish their articles, i think the attorneys must give them a little hard time, life is hard and if you can manage at work the rest will just come easy

Nikita  said:
on Monday 08-May-17 12:26 PM
My parents raised me to treat the pauper the same way I would treat the King. I agree with always knowing your place in life and treating people as equals because you never know when you will need them. There will always be people who will judge you and resent you for things in life and some may even be jealous but you should never get caught up in those politics and that drama.

Bianca  said:
on Monday 08-May-17 11:27 AM
I am aware of a lot of people that have their Law degrees and do not operate at all in the legal sector. I sometimes think that the perception of being an attorney is different to the reality of being an attorney. Shows like Suits make it look extremely different to what it really is. I have heard from numerous attorneys that their time as a candidate was not glamorous at all and they experienced what hard work was first hand while working late hours and really 'doing their time.' There is always no substitute for hard work and that is the bottom line, if you work hard, you will make it for sure.

Nina  said:
on Monday 08-May-17 09:38 AM
I agree with this blog and can definitely say that you basically know nothing when you walk out of university and start your articles. Being a candidate is a great learning experience and slowly builds up your confidence for the day you are admitted as an attorney. I really enjoy my articles and especially the department I work in. I have learned so much over the last year and I am looking forward to the things I will experience in the next months to come.

Clare  said:
on Monday 08-May-17 09:13 AM
You will never get far in life if you don't work hard for it, People need to get over this thing that you can get everything for Free nothing is life is free, Working in Medico a lot people think that if they claim all they need to do is sit back and relax but as soon as they hear that they need to attend Expert Appointments they get so upset, they want money but cant work to improve the outcome. I have Started Teaching my son to work hard and if he does well we buy him another Paw Patrol Toy.

Jessica Apfel   said:
on Monday 08-May-17 08:55 AM
As a Candidate Attorney I must agree with all that is said. I do not shurk work and am always eager to 'tackle' the difficult Magistrate Court files and irrespective of where a client may reside, I am happy to pay them a visit and ensure that all is up to speed. This period is not only to learn how the legal fraternity works but is also to gain experience within the working world in general - We are 'newbies' to this and every experience should be embraced. I am thankful for the team that I work with because they give me the opportunity to embrace new challenges.

We should certainly not think any less of a collegue and we can in actual fact be dubbed the 'barnacle on a whale's bottom' at this stage of our lives.

How we endure these two years will pay homage to how we progress in the rest of our careers.

Alexis  said:
on Monday 08-May-17 08:33 AM
A person cannot get very far without putting in hard work. You made a decision to become something, and you need to abide by what that entails....even if it is working until 10 at night or dropping off a letter at a Vet or looking at a Jacuzzi cover.....You need to appreciate the opportunities in life. And respect in my eyes are earned, they are not a given....

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